Flipchart Notes from November 21,
2002 Conference
Community involvement in decision on what health care services are available
instead of competition
Competition doesn’t work
Keeping necessary services and quality care
How do we keep our local doctors
How to change our designation from rural to urban
Knowing our local data and who is it available to
How do we cooperate on common goals
How do we educate consumers of health care to be smart consumers
How do we invest in prevention and wellness systems
How to expand access to what already exists on wellness
How to keep overhead down
How d we keep rates reasonable
Provider choice
Maintaining or improving quality or care
Dealing with the number of people who are uninsured
Eliminate unnecessary procedures unnecessary drugs
Identify patterns of utilization and analyze data
Improve access to specialists where are the gaps
When aren’t all school systems united pre K-16
Why is S.C. considered rural and reimbursred at lower rural rates
1st time we’ve heard this data
Why brokers haven’t shared this data
It looks like we have bargaining power
Trust? More info? Numbers to be more effective than RESIG.
What is the incentive for providers to share information
Can information be compelled as a condition of contract
Does there have to be only three choices for RESIG in S.C.
Trust health providers
The system seems to be set up to have non-convergent interests
Goal should be best health care at the lowest cost
We have told the health industry that we will pay high costs for lower
level care
The “reality” that you don’t get the highest care at
low or no cost
Are current providers able to accommodate shifts in client (Kaiser does
not have enough capacity)
Do we need RESIG?
Will it take a court order to get the data?
Health providers should have an incentive to ensure better overall health
which might lower costs
What do the experts in this room suggest Sonoma Co/Calif/U.S. do?
How do we get data needed to make a difference?
Are we going to have enough control to stabilize costs?
Could we develop a self-insured health plan?
How can we deal with them – us climate?
We need a demographic study – age – gender – family
make up
Who is using medical/hospital services?
How can we keep/get good doctors?
Look at other providers
Large group to leverage providers
Short term-form partnerships school, city & county
Real parity with labor and management
Importance of local doctors, hospitals
It’s not all about $
Too many layers of management district-JPA-broker-HealthNet-hospitals-doctors
Support local health care providers
Health care is personal
Practical Ideas
Key Ideas, Helpful Ideas for Bargaining
As a bargaining unit/and management get little information
Needs to be health committee included all bargaining units all have same
information in district
Decisions to be made in April by July 1
Have a countywide, 40 districts negotiate prior to local district bargaining
Barriers in negotiation process to countywide negotiations
Negotiate at district level are “little guys on totem pole”
At table to include language to include broader issue i.e. K-16 health
care issues
We solved it once and it came back
Day by day year round issue, every negotiation
Need continuity of people on committee with history and knowledge
Build Trust for countywide system that has leverage, experts, keep districts
informed
Spring Conference and other get information out to districts management
and bargaining units
Some districts are out there on your own
Some broker information felt not to be true
Include professional medical mathematics: expertise trust factor, neutral
Resig is a district business function not bargaining unit
Health issue broader role than business
Why does it cost Healthnet $750 family – we don’t understand
Resig unable to provide actuarial information/district can get individual
Get countywide actuarial
Bargaining unit sit down at table during cost discussions
Bargaining unit want information, don’t get it, frustrating
Teachers in SRCC pay own benefits, varies between districts & bargaining
groups, works with 2 insurers, doesn’t work with classified, part-time
if not 2nd incomp
Flex plan
Self-insured benefit pool, reimburse surplus or carryover co-pays
Trust issue re: district holding funds
Larger pool to leverage health care providers
Local impact
Districts and unions together bargain with carrier
Declining qualify of care
Cost containment
Education patient specific prescription medical center, Plain Tree 1986
Maintain current level of service
Evaluate current services
Look at options – different approach
Countywide health care rates not just schools
Costs based on data and utilization in Sonoma County
Dialogue with medical community
Collaboration in bargaining health benefits
Problem solving away from CBAs
Possible Solutions
Explore plan redesign
Trust concept
Local control
½ of 1% set aside for data collection analysis
Use countywide approach
Teach employees to ask questions about recommended care “what are
my other options?”
Countywide health option orientation once a month for new hires before
they make health plan choice
Have year round committee to study what plans are available, do plan
design, etc.
Pay fees for wellness programs such as gym membership, weight loss, smoking
cessation, etc.
Develop broad, long term solutions
Kaiser and HealthNet do joint wellness classes to share state costs and
get enough enrollment in outlying areas
Consultants on set fee not a % basis
True partnership involves employer and employees sharing the cost of
premiums
Allow people to opt out if they have other coverage
Incentives for wellness and prevention participation
Prescription monitoring and drug bulk purchasing to get good rates
We want communication between all the parties
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