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First Meeting - 10/6/05
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What We Can Do Locally

Creating a Healthy Sonoma County

Seed Grant Project: The SSU Community & Campus Initiative on the Sonoma County Health Care Crisis


Data Analysis Project
Small group
Dinner meeting 10-06:

What brought each of you here tonight? What is your interest in being here?

  • As a health planner I am interested in data generated in this county
    • I would like to see the profile from this group in the next 6 months
    • To provide an asset to the community in concert with the county
    • Add to the county health profile in area of what resources are out there- i.e. Disability, health workers compensation etc.
      • Data from first responder calls
      • Education data on healthy kids; absenteeism
  • What other revenue generation is possible with a healthier community?
  • Create a poll to understand public support and sentiment
  • A recent report provided on specialty surgery(s) in the county and how the costs contribute to the high % of healthcare costs:
    • Under 35 age group has a diabetes admissions rate of 15% above the state average (see other data on the report)
    • There are other examples of areas in which Sonoma County is above the state admission rates
  • Organized labor wants to understand its input versus output of benefits to figure out public health policy initiatives they can recommend.
    • We want to bust open the big black box of health care costs.
  • Health of the primary care community in this county is at a critical juncture
    • How do we survive?
    • The future of the family medicine project- (Group wants to learn more about it)
    • The contrast between vision and reality is stark- it produces vertigo
  • Roseland community is perhaps a good location or pilot projects
  • We can help create interest in the data - so that it is not threatening to cost sensitive groups- as a purchaser of healthcare
  • Potential for collaboration on a very complex subject.
    • Raise foundation $ to figure out how to do it right in Sonoma County
    • Need to do it locally
      • There is a project in Santa Clara County that is working with organized labor to do this. (working partnerships- Sarah Muller)
  • Need to understand what other counties are doing in this same arena
    • ID "best" ideas and put them to work
    • Do a statewide, county to county scan of who is doing the "Best" work. i.e. Healthy kids
    • How complicated this is?
    • Can we get something done in a few months with the right resources? It might cost $35K
    • We know the 15-20 counties to look at.
  • Request for a copy of the 1 year benefit contract renewals for major groups in county that could be analyzed line by line in order to negotiate more effectively in next renewal
  • Before labor comes back to the bargaining table they need more data
  • Purchasers need to bargain directly with health care providers
  • What commitments have been made for seed dollars for this initiative? Answer:
    • Communications
    • Healthcare fundraisers hired
    • Meeting costs
  • Would like to see a universal healthcare program coming out of this effort.
  • The southwest healthcare clinic has a three month wait to be seen.
    • What is the cost to bring this number down to a one day wait?
    • We need to know the data
  • There are secret agreements between hospitals and providers (plans)
    • i.e. Blue Cross negotiated individually with the hospitals and are paying [substantially less] than Sutter is
  • Providers say the issues are:
    • Technology
    • Aging Population
    • Drug costs
    • Are these all true?
  • We need to get beyond "going" after insurance companies and focus on our mission statement
  • We need to develop the data to understand the whole system
    • Our objective can be broader than getting data from the insurance companies
    • What kind of information do providers want that they don't have?
  • Where do we come up with the resources to fix the issues?
    • Is there a way to develop a strong partnership (direct) between providers and buyers?
    • Is there a better way to handle costs for catastrophic?
    • There is a growing interest among hospitals to É.
    • Improve healthcare delivery systems
  • Come up with a model to cut out the middleman
    • While providing great access to primary care
  • In order to lobby effectively, it can be helpful to have case study examples of what others have done.
    • i.e. The case study example for the SMART system
  • Arnie Milstein's, cost pyramid breaks down healthcare costs: accessible on a website
  • Consider value of state reinsuring catastrophic?
  • State politics:
    • We need to focus things on specific efforts
    • Target specific efforts
  • Create a more sophisticated local system
  • Another reason the data is important - Joe Nation healthcare proposal put together using insurance company data
  • Develop high line data that speaks to these issues
  • Sonoma County utilization databank is being built now by Tom Moore
  • Want to develop a further proposal for this data project [by the next meeting?]